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If it's interesting or funny, I'll reprint it on this page. If you lot yet insist on pronouncing it like "gift" and don't feel similar Eastward-mailing me a reason... well and so, you can jo gump in a lake, you gerk! - Phillip Burgess writes:
- Ahhh, good, someone with their head screwed on right.
Anyone who pronounces "GIF" with a hard K just does not understand computer programmers (and whatever programmers who withal insist on this silly pronunciation are but unfit). No *decent* coder would pass up an opportunity to inflict a horrid pun on the world. And seeing as peanut butter is one of the principle three programmer foods (the other 2 being Pepsi and nacho cheese Doritos), the reference is immediately obvious. The "acronym theory," that a hard G should be used because it's "Graphics" and non "Jraphics," merely does not hold water. If acronyms were ever to be pronounced from their source words rather than as an independent new word, then by this very organization, "JPEG" would be pronounced "JFEG." Just to requite these people a gustation of their own medicine... I've started pronouncing "JPEG" with a hard G. - Brenda Harrison writes:
- The "Correct Pronunciation of 'GIF'" folio made me express joy for a skilful five minutes. It reminds me of the age old contend of "How to pronounce 'Geocities.'" That statement ended up with someone actually calling the Geocities offices to come across how the phone operators answered the phone. ("Hi, Geo Cities," not "Hello, Geocities [g-os-ities]," only so you know. You probably already exercise, anyways.)
- Sam Mefford writes:
- Cheers for your page on the pronunciation of 'gif'! I'thou glad to accept been vindicated past bear witness!
Just thought I'd point out that in the english language, when a g is followed past an a, o, or u, information technology is supposed to be difficult. When followed by an i or e, it is supposed to be soft. Therefore I never had any question that it was pronounced 'jif', despite the fact that anybody around disagreed. - Rita Minnichsoffer rebuts:
- I'd like to know what happens when you lot give a gekko to geese, or get a gift from a girl, then...
- Talbott Crowell (who plain has a dictionary and lots of gratis fourth dimension) besides rebuts:
- I did not know the English language had such rules, from now on I will pronounce the post-obit words with a soft "J" instead of a hard "G"
Jilligans Island
Jibbon Viper
birtday jift
feeling jiddy
jiggle (laugh)
Jilbert (cartoon)
fish jills
the Jideon Bible
you are jilty of the crime
a woman's jirdle
jirl scout cookies
jive me some
jibblets and jizzards
Pronounce GIF as you may. - Dirt McGovern writes:
- Although an interesting diversion, the roots of a word and its original pronunciation are completely irrelevant to common usage. Words have lives of their own. The creators of a word take petty control over pronunciation beyond their original human activity of creation. Words are meant only for communication. The salient question is on "Do you understand my significant when I say 'GIF'?" If the answer is "Yes." Then the dispute over "proper" pronunciation is absolutely cool. Very, very, few people pronounce GIF with a soft 1000. Those who do are understood too every bit those who don't. Where is the problem with that...
All-time regards, Clay (with a "c" as in "cat") - Erik J. Macki writes:
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English language words beginning in "gi-" "ge-" or "gy-" that are not of Romance origin (French, Italian, etc.) are *all* pronounced with a velar (hard) "g." It is probably due to a misunderstanding of this principle that led the inventor of the GIF to pronounce it with an affricate (soft) "m" in the first identify. This is why a native speaker of English would intuitively pronounce a word spelled "GIF" with a velar (hard) "g" without knowing otherwise. This is more consistent with all English-speakers' natural, internal morphophonology, and that is why the velar pronunciation is so widespread. Withal, spelling is often irrelevant to pronunciation in English: with words like "tough," through," "gift," "gypsy," "egg," "jewel," and "massage," no i need waste any attempt creating logic almost how the letter "g" "ought" to exist pronounced in English words: at that place only is no logic. One must go by usage. English is full of words whose pronunciation deviates from prescribed standards--precisely because usage, and not prescriptive rules, dictates what is "correct." No corporeality of arguing from pundits and give-and-take-coiners can ever change this! I doubtable from informally surveys that the velar pronunciation in "GIF" is actually more common than the affricate ("soft") pronunciation--a point of view validated by the very existance of your Web site--and as such the velar variant is at to the lowest degree a "correct" alternative if not the more common and thus "more than correct" form entirely. Thanks,
Erik (Ed: Whoa, that's over my head dude... you lost me at "morphophonology"!) - Dean Hutchings writes:
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For years I have been telling people the right pronunciation of GIF epitome files. They ALWAYS claimed I was wrong. I thought I had read somewhere that the creator of the format pronounced information technology like "jif" but could never observe the proof. Now I have the ammo I need to finally bear witness my point! Give thanks you, thank you, thank yous, thank you, thank you! - Nathan Gaines writes:
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I must say that your page on the right pronunciation of .GIF is the most complete, well-researched, and disarming document I have ever seen on the subject. Now could someone please tell me which of the iii pronunciations of LINUX is correct? Take care,
Nathan Gaines - Rob Ford writes:
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"Jiff"...."Giff"....they're both incorrect. The "G" in "GIF" is silent. And silence is Jolden. So sayeth me. (Rob was also nice enough to provide the not bad animated GIF logo up summit. Thanks, Rob!) - Cole Hewitt writes:
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Maybe GIF should exist pronounced "zhif" with a French accent. Then nosotros could end this controversy. - Steve Bennett writes:
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I saw your site on the proper pronunciation of GIF and have to categorically country it's pronounced with the soft G as in Jif. Back in 1987, I was an assitant Sysop on Compuserve, in the Comics and Animation forum, and also in the AmigaArts forum, and as such was given the opportunity to arrive on the ground floor of GIF development. (GIF was a godsend, especially for the Comics forum which was dealing with umpteen jillion different incompatible graphics formats...) Days afterwards the format was appear and the offset programs released past Compuserve, I was one of the outset to post new GIF code, and wrote an Amiga plan to brandish GIF images. (I really don't retrieve if mine was the first 3rd party program uploaded -- if not, information technology was by a matter of a few days at almost...) I called that program GIFFY considering I had completely rewritten the decoder code (still in utilize by a few programs out there...:) and made it MUCH faster. (Later, I wrote GIFFY2, and HAMGIF...) We all pronounced it "Jif" at the time, and the proper noun "GIFFY" seemed the obvious and clear pick of name. It never even occurred to me that someone might pronounce it with the hard M until the mid 1990s. Seeing your site was a breath of nostalgia for me -- I wonder if at that place's an annal of those quondam Compuserve forums anywhere effectually. Then much bully stuff was there. Alas, I doubtable it'due south all lost in the maelstrom... - JaguaR2D2 writes:
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I idea this might brand a adept link on the GIF Pronunciation Page:
http://world wide web.homestarrunner.com/sbemail51.html It is a cartoon in which, at one indicate, the graphic symbol Strong Bad says: "Okay, side by side on the checklist: lots of animated GIFs! {pronounces it /gifs/; stops typing} or... GIFs... {pronounces information technology /jifs/} or however you say it. I don't know. I heard a couple of nerds arguing nearly it ane time." - Nick writes:
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A belated flake of opinion for the discussion virtually the pronunciation of GIF�it is well-established that it was intended by the creators for GIF to be pronounced with a "J" sound, similar to the peanut butter make, and technically this pronunciation is correct. However, savvy graphics people who know their history (dare I say I'1000 one?) are also quite familiar with the JPEG Interchange Format (JIF), which is pronounced in the same manner. Since the Joint Photographic Experts Group was organized in 1986, their evolution of the JPEG family of standards (including JIF) perchance began earlier than the CompuServe work, which is consistently cited as resulting in the creation of GIF in 1987. Conversely, it can be argued that the Joint Photographic Experts Group didn't release their first standard until 1992, well after GIF's ascent in popularity. But the timeline is not so of import. Those of united states of america who followed and became familiar with both standards ran into the pronunciation outcome long years ago. And the answer was simple�adhere to typical English rules, every bit cited rather well by Erik J. Macki, and pronounce GIF with a hard One thousand and pronounce JIF with a J. That dominion fabricated it simple to identify betwixt the formats, even if it meant one was pronounced inconsistently with what its creators intended. Such "bastardization of language" is unavoidable. People still pronounce Porsche every bit a single syllable, despite in that location being no silent Eastward in German. Furniture stores advertise "hunt lounges" instead of the correct French chaises longues. While I generally agree with Mr. Macki that "i must go with usage," this is a different case. Information technology's not from laziness or poor agreement of etymology that I pronounce GIF with a hard G, nor considering it follows what other people do. It's in respect to the cognition that there are two graphic formats with identical-sounding names, and the easiest, virtually efficient way to distinguish them is to pronounce them differently. For my ii cents, information technology was silly of the creators of GIF to become against an obvious pronunciation and ignore the words that formed that acronym. That was just request for the very trouble that has kept this argument alive for so long. - Pigumon writes:
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Doesn't affair what the "Creators" say. Y'all can't make up the word "banana" and tell anybody information technology'southward pronounced "ping pong table". Gif(t). Not like information technology matters, Spam is a stupid discussion for junk postal service since tons of people Honey SPAM but hate junk postal service. Computer geeks are stupid. They named the "PDA" when they had the take a chance to telephone call it a "PAD". - Steve writes:
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Yes, I realize this is such old chapeau that it now smells similar... an old hat. Just, because I was basically flung to your .gif controversy site, here's my two bucks. (which of course, used to be 2 cents) My commencement objection is minor simply meaningful to me. You see the picture you take on your site of Bob Berry? Well, I don't take a flick of Steve Wilhite as a second confirmation, but I'll tell yous right now, no ane that looks similar Bob Berry is going to have whatever effect on how I pronounce a damned affair. Having said that, peradventure you volition consider this: I don't accept your position that anyone has the right to ascertain pronunciation of anything at all, whether they made it up or non. That includes, and maybe needs to be emphasized in the case of acronyms, in lite of their becoming a de facto modern day source of new words and linguistic communication. Because of this fact, and attempting to stop adding stupid pronunciations to the already also confusing and contradictory English language linguistic communication, I will debate you on that field of study whatever twenty-four hours, in front of any audience, and win overwhelming back up. In other words, just because yous assume, or considering you SAY a matter, doesn't make it so. I could, for instance attempt to employ your "rights" logic to a myriad of other circumstances and be shot down without an argument. For case, if I purchase a huge tract of worthless land, bleed all the swamps, clean upward the old garbage dumps, build beautiful lamp-lined streets and gorgeous houses, I might think I take a right to number my streets and houses how I want. Perhaps call n south and s due east. Simply I don't. Y'all see, there are laws, (in this case laws for guiding people trying to find their way, which is something the jif's should spend a footling time thinking about) just equally there are laws of pronunciation. Again, arbitrarily deciding to pronounce something with a natural "j" audio, that STANDS FOR something with a natural "g" sound WILL Non go far so. Non unless y'all can defend the pronunciation of graphics every bit jraphics. Finally, I refuse to follow some casuistic course, (especially one based upon peanut butter of all things) that stupidly flies in the face of the primary logic, which in this example would be the long name of the acronym: Grrrraphic etc. etc. This principle of mine can be found vindicated in the very town where I live. No one knows who beginning called this area, Buena Vista. I presume it was a Hispanic, although it might non have been. In any case, the rural, native population insists on pronouncing this name as, Byoona Vista. Guess what? Even though some of these people have FOUNDING ancestors whose opinions predate any authority I might try to enforce by over 100 years, I AM NOT, EVER, going to phone call this place BYOOna. To those who insist, (and there are many) and to yous and your followers I say, Kiss My pet Jackass. Steve - Kim Williamson writes:
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...as long as y'all insist on everyone saying y'all're "heels over head" in love with someone. Which is what is originally was...every bit you'd put it, "Menstruum. The terminate. That'southward final. Terminate of story." Linguistic communication evolves. Pronunciation is part of linguistic communication. Pronunciation evolves. Kim - Justin Garbett writes:
- Cheers for the great info page on GIF pronunciation, I butt heads with this issue ALL the time.
I run ReactionGIFs and have to say GIF constantly. I ever say it with the soft G (Jiff)... and every dang time, the person I am talking to will right me with the difficult One thousand: "Y'all mean GIF? It happens every time. Then I tell them the 'choosy developers' story and they just stare back blankly at me similar I am a crazy person. Then they continue to use the hard Chiliad and call up I have some form of nerd OCD. I hate to say information technology, but the difficult Thousand people are winning the war. Information technology's an uphill battle for united states of america soft Gs. I volition go on to fight the good fight as I just prefer the soft Grand. I might take to stop trying to defend it though, people really don't similar to exist corrected. All the best,
Justin - John Bridges writes:
- I was ane of the original GIF developers, wrote the prototype viewer PICEM which was first released in 1987.
I have always pronounced it GIF like the word GIFT. Sadly, I don't take an archive of the developers forum on Compuserve from 1987, but in that location was at least ane discussion on the pronunciation, and I was on the GIF side. My argument so, similar many of the modernistic arguments was that information technology's Graphics Image Format, not Jraphics Image Format, and that the closest word is Souvenir. - Matt Drury writes:
- I have a note on my calendar every May 28th to gloat GIF, and some quick google-fu constitute your folio.
I helped run the Motion picture Support Forum on CompuServe, which expanded to the many Graphics Forums, from the late Eighties through the early 2000s. Dining in the Oak Room with Steve and others, the soft-G "gif" was e'er used in-house. I don't remember people being every bit polarized almost information technology then - Mac vs PC was more of a thing - simply it was pre-Internet, after all. It amuses me to no end that, 33 years on, it's still being argued about. And that'south just fine - how many other fancy file formats are in widespread use a third of a century after? :) Thank you for keeping the faith! |
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